Guy Spiro: Phyllis, I like to start by asking people to give us a thumbnail version of their story. How did you come to be who you are?

Phyllis Light: Well ... I grew up unhappy.

GS: How unusual.

[laughter]

PL: I had been looking for ways to help me to feel better about myself, about my life and about what I’m doing here. Early on, I was a major seeker of truth, of self improvement and I’ve been avidly on that path ever since.

GS: I’ve said many times, someday I would like to have a word with whoever set it up that we learn and grow through stress and pain.

[laughter]

PL: I totally understand that. They say that we all incarnated in this period called the Kali Yuga, the ancient Vedic Seers called it the Age of Darkness. My understanding is that we all came here at this time because we knew we would grow the most. There seems to be a correlation between how bad it gets and how much we can grow. That seems to be the game that we are all playing.

GS: By your reckoning, are we still in it or are we emerging from it?

PL: I think we are emerging from it. My higher ups have told me in about 48 years, there is going to be a major shift. We are in the process of shifting, so that we can have a complete shift at that time. I would say yes, we are emerging.

GS: Things are definitely changing. It is fascinating to watch. What kinds of things did you go through? You know, teachers, books, trainings and such.

PL: I studied with many people, did many trainings and saw many healers for a number of years until something opened up in me. All this information started coming through, things that I needed to know to help myself and to help others. I did a lot of other people’s stuff and I got myself to a point where my inner awareness, intelligence and intuition opened up and a whole wealth of information has been coming through.

     I was a TM teacher many years ago and I did a lot of the Loving Relationships Trainings with Sondra Ray.

GS: A lot of good people have come out of TM., perhaps most notably Deepak Chopra, but many others as well.

PL: I worked a lot with the rebirthers, affirmations, changing your thoughts, Louise Hay, and my work has piggy backed on that. But my current skill is to go to the depths of the subconscious mind and remove the negative patterns or thought forms that I find there. It has turned into very advanced therapy and healing because I am able to go in and make changes to the subconscious, so people experience a shift in their daily lives almost immediately.

GS: How would you describe that process of going to their subconscious mind?

PL: Well, it seems to be a gift I have. I can tune into a person and hear what is going on within them at a very deep level. It is like I have trained myself to listen to their subconscious mind. When I find a negative belief, I have the ability to release that programming in order to facilitate change. It is just something that I have developed over 35 years of working on myself.

GS: I think I understand what you mean. Sometimes people ask me where did I get some of my stuff, and I tend to think I brought a good bit of it with me, but decades of work bring it out.

PL: Right. I think I’ve done healing and this kind of work for many lifetimes. However, when I was born into this lifetime, I had no clue. It was really important for me to work hard on and develop myself. That’s when all these abilities showed up. My message to people is, “Do your work. Work on yourself. Clear as much of your old negativity, your old baggage as you can and then your gift and your spiritual abilities will show up.”

GS: Everyone has heard, “When the student is ready, the teacher appears.” But, the reverse is also true.

PL: How do you mean?

GS: When the teacher is ready, the students appear. The worker is ready, the job appears. I often tell people, “Don’t worry about what you are supposed to do. Just get ready.”

PL: Absolutely, that is the key. When we leave this life, what we take with us is how much progress our soul has made, how much progress you have made on your spiritual path. To me, that’s the most important thing. It is good to have goals and it’s good to know where you are going, but at the same time, develop yourself and all kinds of things open up for you that you would never have been able to plan for.

GS: Exactly. Get ready for it and then there it is. What is new and exciting for you these days?

PL: Well, this is not really public knowledge, but when you ask the question, I have to answer. I am working on a rejuvenation program. I don’t have it available to the world yet, just some clients who have worked with me over the years. I’ve been able to figure out how to take the C-31 gene, which is the gene that runs the aging process, and switch it in order to build strength in the body, endurance and extend life. That’s been pretty exciting. Maybe this is the time to announce it. My father was supposed to leave about fourteen years ago and he’s still here. He’s 85 and he’s running his own business. I just believe we’re not supposed to get old, decrepit and die. I believe there is a life force that flows through us that can be renewed and as a result, life can go on. We can stay young. I’ve been working on it for about 25 years, but the exciting part is that I’ve just made a breakthrough.

GS: It’s as if we get old and decrepit because we think we are supposed to.

PL: There is a lot going on. I believe we’ve actually been tampered with by dark forces. It’s part of Kali Yuga, the age of darkness. I believe these dark forces have done things to us to limit our life force, to limit our capability to achieve our true potential. Part of the game is clearing all these locks and clearing all this negativity to get back on the path of being who we really are. Part of my work has been to clear the influence of dark energy in order to allow us to be the light beings that we are.

GS: What do you suppose would be their incentive?

PL: I didn’t set up the game, I’m just trying to figure out how it is played. Again, I think it goes back to this idea of Kali Yuga. Light manifested into duality and the farther the duality got from the light, the darker it got. Now we are coming back up the cycle, back towards the light and what is needed for us is to release the hold that the dark has on us, in order to fulfill our potential as spiritual beings of the light.

GS: I work a great deal with the concept of light myself. Basically light obliterates dark. The more light that there is, the less dark there can be.

PL: I’ve worked to figure out how to bring in more light and how to release the hold that the dark has on us. It is very important work. It is very timely on the planet. It has been a real blessing for me, but part of what I’ve had to do is get really creamed by the dark in order to figure out what I needed to clear. That’s been the challenge of my work, sort of doing battle with the dark. I really don’t want to do battle. I want to bless the dark and release it and move towards the light.

GS: Exactly. When I run into people who are dealing with that sort of thing, I generally tell them, “Don’t fight it. Love it.” That just turns it right off.

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How would you say you are actually doing the work?

PL: I feel like what I’m able to do is a function of my spiritual authority. Spiritual authority comes with clearing the subconscious mind. The more I cleared over time, within my own being and within my own subconscious, the more powerful I’ve become and the more able I am to make things happen. Maybe ten years ago it would have taken me three months to clear someone’s pain. Now I can do it in a week or sometimes overnight. It’s a matter of my spiritual authority or spiritual muscle. Again, I go back to clear yourself, work on yourself, develop yourself, and you, too, will develop your spiritual authority and your spiritual muscle and your ability to have power in the world. It is important to understand that it doesn’t mean power over others. It just means power to attract, power to support, power to help, power to make things happen. It is not a power trip.

GS: It shouldn’t surprise people that these sorts of powers are becoming more available. Jesus said, “What I do, you will do and more.”

PL: Some people want someone to do it for them and that only goes so far, but I’m not saying you have to do it all yourself, because I have certainly found other people along my path to help me. Many people fall into the trap of “I have to do it all myself,” and that’s crazy. That’s why people like me are around, because we have worked on ourselves to the point where we can then help other people come along and help speed up their process.

GS: It is really interesting to see the increase in light that there is in the world. A lot of people run around saying, “We’re in such bad shape and things have never been worse than they are now.” Really that isn’t true. Things are better than they’ve ever been. It’s just hard to see it because we know so much more about the things that are wrong.

PL: With the global network of communication, we hear about all the bad things going on in other parts of the world and that influences people. We go back to “is the cup half full or half empty?” The people who see the cup as half empty, they’re going, “Look at how bad the world is.” The people with the cup half full are going, “Look at the potential. Look at the growth potential. Look at the good things.”

     I used to be one of the half empty people. I used to go, “Oh look how terrible it is out there, look how bad.” Then I realized, that’s not serving me. That’s not serving the whole. I was just putting more negative stuff out there, more negative thoughts. Then I realized it is important to focus on the positive. Focus on what you want to create for yourself. Focus on clearing your own individual worry and negativity, because all the negativity you have within you, you’re putting out there in the collective. You are either part of creating the problem or part of creating the solution.

GS: Somebody recently said, “Half empty or half full, you better not be charging me full price.”

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PL: It is hard to watch the news and stay positive. When you watch something negative, in my research, it actually changes what I call your bits of consciousness. You watch the news and it is almost like you buy this negative energy and then that changes your outlook and thinking. If you are addicted to the news and you just watch the news all the time, you are just pulling in all kinds of negativity within your being that you need to really clear. You have to stay clear of it because you are altering your consciousness.

     Prayer is a great way to start. “Please, God, help me free myself from the negativity I’ve taken on.” I have a lot of people who show up to work with me and they go, “Boy, this sounds like an answer to my prayers.” So, it starts with your desire. If you are addicted to the news and you are watching it 24/7, then you might want to ask, is that really serving me? What is that about? Do I really need to know every negative thing that is going on everywhere? What is that about for me, that I have to stay on top of all the negativity? That’s a place where you can look at yourself and start your work from there.

GS: We need to start having more good news showing up. It is not just all doom and gloom. There are all kinds of good things going on. We just don’t tend to see it.

PL: I know, it’s sad that we don’t just revel in the good things that are happening. I know Oprah tries to do good news.

GS: If you just back up a little and take a longer view, my gosh, look back two or three hundred years, and things are amazingly better.

PL: There is something else I want to move into here. I think one of the challenges that we are facing on this planet, particularly in America, is the high level of stress. I believe the high level of stress comes from both the pace of life and our high-tech world. The high-tech world is actually contributing to the faster pace of the world. Before you had to wait for a report to be mailed to you and now you get an email and you are supposed to respond right away. All of a sudden, you are on the line to communicate fast and get things done faster and everything is faster, faster. This is part of our work and our high-tech frequency has increased so dramatically that people are getting zapped big time. Studies in the early ’90s showed that exposure to these electromagnetic frequencies or electromagnetic fields, creates depression, irritability, stress and immune system problems. If you look at our world today and see how many people have allergies, cancers, fibromyalgia, ADHD, many of these things are stress related and frequency related. I created a device eighteen years ago, way before it got really bad, called a Rejuvenizer, that shields you from all these negative frequencies hitting you. This is my way to help protect people from these stressors in our modern world.

GS: I don’t think that the information flow is a bad thing. In fact, it is kind of behind the mass enlightenment, but the EMFs that are being transmitted is an issue.

PL: Yes, it is very damaging. Let me tell you something else that is very interesting. A number of years ago, this came to me. The high-tech frequencies break up the energy between the higher chakras and create these particles, these fragmentations that cluster around the seventh chakra, the spiritual chakra and block the influx of spiritual energy. So, the more we are hit by these high-tech frequencies, the more blockages we have. I asked my guide how many of these blockages are a real problem. They said any more than three.

     When I did this research in the early ’90s, people in America had several thousand of these blockages. People in Europe had several hundred. People in India had zero to five. India was still intact. Now with all the high-tech stuff that is going over to India, they have these fragmentations in the thousands. What I’m saying here is that our high-tech frequencies are not only messing us up physically, creating depression and immune system problems, but they are actually messing us up spiritually. This is a real concern for me because my work is primarily about helping people to grow spiritually. I’ve actually put in a number of functions to clear this fragmentation and to protect people in this way, and many people report to me that after just a few weeks of wearing the Rejuvenizer, they feel so much more intuitive. That’s because they are not being blocked any more by these fragmentations created by the high-tech particles. This is my way to help people be both physically well and spiritually healthy and grow and develop.

     It has been a wonderful thing. I’ve had them out for eighteen years, and eighteen years ago we didn’t have everyone with a cell phone and all the cell phone towers. We didn’t have all the GPS and all the Homeland Security satellites. Chicago is so wired. Oh my God! Chicago has so much stuff going on. They have really gone high-tech. They have so many satellites.

     Sometimes I do upgrades on the Rejevenizer based on what my friend in Chicago is experiencing. I’m in Austin and she’s in Chicago and she will say, “I went to the subway and I felt totally wacked.” I say, “Let’s see what you have going on.” We just figured out that Chicago has been the poster child for frequencies. She is living in an apartment where she is getting four to six wi-fi networks in her space at all times. It is unbelievable what we are up against. Wi-fi is one of the worst. It is on 24/7. They put it in major cities. Everyone has it. It is actually blasting the energy field around people and it is weakening it, making dysfunction, and making all the problems we are talking about. I have even read that the German government is starting to pull wi-fi out of schools and businesses because they feel it is harmful. It is not just me, a telepathic healer who is saying this, but the German government is also saying it.

GS: Yes, we are clearly going to have to refine our delivery systems for information. The information flow is not going to decrease, but we are going to have to figure out how to manage it more sanely. The other thing that I thought of while you were talking is all the surveillance that is going on.

PL: This is a little factoid that is out there in quotes, but it is very real. I learned it from a teacher and I also researched it and the same information came to me. I have gotten it from all sides. Our photographs contain our life force. The natives who said, “Don’t take my picture,” they were right. I’ve learned that, over time, when your photograph is exposed to electric or electromagnetic fields, like if your photograph is on the computer or if your loved one’s photograph is even on the refrigerator and that loved one is within the electromagnetic field of the refrigerator 24/7, it weakens the person’s constitution. It creates a weakness over time.

     You take a person who is on TV, he or she is on everyone’s TV, they are on a website, you have a gazillion people going to their website. These people are getting so zapped, it’s unbelievable. You mention the surveillance thing, and you pass by the same place every day, every day, every day, it is going to have a weakening effect. What we are doing in our world is we are weakening all the people. Again, I am not about scaring people. I created a solution. My advice is, wear a personal rejuvenator and you’re fine. It is not leave this world, go somewhere else, go to a deserted island. I am not putting out fear and then leaving. I love my high-tech world. It is just, protect yourself. Be safe.

GS: A closing statement?

PL: The most important thing is to love being who you are, love being in life and realize that even though there are challenges to face, it is part of learning to grow and be all that you can be. Sometimes we have to be knocked down in order to rise up even higher. The important thing is love being alive at a really deep level even though you may feel knocked around by life. Work on yourself to the place where you can really appreciate all that you have and all that you are.

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