Guy Spiro: Eric, we last talked in 2004, 2005. What’s new since then?

Eric Pearl: We’ve expanded quite a deal. The Reconnection is now in thirty languages, we’ve trained over 60,000 practitioners. We have some new programs that are spreading very rapidly called Reconnecting Kids, working with children. I recently got back from working with the Maori children in New Zealand on their Marai, which are the lands specially designated for them; it’s sacred land. You have to be brought on by invitation and through a special ceremony. They are very spiritual, beautiful people. I spent a day there working with a class of children who were between the ages of five to twelve. It was quite amazing watching how instantly they were able to grasp the healing work. Children allow themselves to accept it immediately and they don’t have to pretend to do techniques to let themselves grasp who we already are as human beings.

     The Reconnection is, according to a lot of the researchers, a new form of a much more comprehensive genre or field of healing that takes us beyond energy. It takes us into and is comprised of energy, light and information. It’s interesting because we’ve had aspects of energy, light and information here on the planet before, but from what we can determine, this is a new level of healing that hasn’t been here prior to when the Reconnection made it’s introduction onto the Earth. The next thing I knew, people started reporting healings.

GS: Pretty remarkable healings, too.

EP: Yes. Healings you would never think of. They started reporting cancers had vanished, people getting up out of wheelchairs, hearing and vision returning, and children with cerebral palsy and epilepsy were able to run and play and talk and no longer had seizures, all sorts of very excitingly, awesomely, shocking healings. Not everybody had these healings, but enough of them had them so we knew that something real, something substantial was going on. My patients would ask what I did. And I would tell them, “nothing, don’t tell anyone,” which of course, went over about as big as Nancy Reagan saying just say no to drugs.

GS: Wait, that didn’t work?

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EP: So everyone started coming here and saying, I’ll have what she had. And the next thing we know, people started saying teach us. And I said, teach it, how do you teach something like this? I’m standing there waving my hands looking like an idiot, so stand there, wave your hands and look like an idiot and tell me what happens. After people had interacted with this, they found that when I showed them how to do it and what to pay attention to, no technique involved, they were facilitating healings beyond anything that anyone had thought of. The people that were masters and master teachers in the various energy techniques found that in doing their techniques, they were able to facilitate much more without changing anything. The biggest surprise to them, which was later verified by many different researchers, was that once they were willing to actually put the technique itself down, they found that they had mastered healing. It’s a beautiful gift when we free ourselves.

GS: It sounds as if you’re not so much teaching it as transmitting it.

EP: Exactly. You really cannot teach healing. That’s been part of the illusion. We’ve been thinking that we’ve been going places to teach healing and many of our teachers today have been thinking that they’re teaching healing. We kind of lose the concept in that. I can make an analogy coming from my background as a chiropractor. Many chiropractors feel that they are making the adjustment in the body. But the reality is, if we really look at it, and if we really look at the original teachings of D.D. Palmer who founded chiropractic, we find that we are introducing, as chiropractors, a force into the body that allows the body to take it and make the proper adjustment.

     It is the same with healing. We get lost in the healing: move your hand this way, move your hand that way and take a pendulum and find permission for this, that, and the other, wear this necklace and wear that protection. We get so lost in the technique itself, we’re coming up with new sets of training wheels for the bicycle, when in reality, the universe is waiting for us to realize that the way to master the bicycle is to take the training wheels off. This is why the children learn this so instantly and so beautifully, because they don’t come into it with the fear concepts.

     An example could be that you fill a room with toys, the child runs to the first toy that captures his or her attention until the second toy does and they run to that one. They don’t take out a pencil and a muscle test to see if it’s appropriate, if that’s the right toy, and if the universe says that it’s alright to play with it. When you let a child be childlike, they take healing on with that same degree of common sense that many adults have lost because we’ve had fear bred into the backgrounds of what we’ve been taught. The children come in and they place their hands on, and I show them how to feel and watch the person on the table that they’re working with. Then they will see the person’s body go into an involuntary movement. You’ll see their eyes open wide. Wide as if a six foot ice cream sundae was just put in front of them, and then we’ll say pull your hand back over here, and they’ll start to do it and the person on the table will move in a different way. When it’s an adult on the table and they see them trying it first and responding, and the children are only five or six years old and they’re doing it, they suddenly realize the truth and their relationships and the equality of all of us as human beings.

GS: That’s quite empowering for a child.

EP: Absolutely.

GS: From what I hear you saying, it’s not so much that the healer effects the healing as facilitates it.

EP: Exactly

GS: There was a recent, fairly long article in, I believe it was, Newsweek, about what they’re still calling the placebo effect, which is just the body healing itself once permission is given, more or less, by the mind.

EP: I don’t like the term placebo effect. Medicine tends to put everything into terms that medicine understands, and unfortunately, since medicine has yet to understand the mind of God, we should not limit our comprehension and understanding to what medicine has figured out.

GS: But what I think is striking is that they’re having to admit that it’s energetic.

EP: They’re not only having to admit that it’s energetic, but it’s information. Many researchers are involved in this work, and I love William Tillert. It’s no surprise to William or anyone else that he’s not the easiest person to understand. But the way he explained this is a way that makes some sense. So let’s try it this way, the issue he speaks of is what he likes to call Information Medicine, which is a little bit past energy medicine, and, of course, past chemical medicine.

     Chemical medicine is what we’ve had in the past and the simplest metaphor for that would be, if you place bacteria into a glass of water and throw in some silver colloidal particles, it kills the bacteria. We know that because we use silver colloidal particles medicinally and spiritually. People thought that it was due to the contact of the silver particles in there and that type of thinking led to chemical medicine. But, Bill continues, if you, in fact, have the same experimental set up and you put the silver in an electrode, let’s say, in a fluorescent tube and you focus light on the jar, you still kill the bacteria—without there being the chemical touching. In other words, this is the consciousness once we began to recognize it more clearly, that led us to energy medicine.

     So here we go to the next part. What we’ve found out, he explains, is if you have a jar with the bacteria in the water and you plug in something that can be an intention imprinted electrical device, or bring in Reconnective Healing, which is energy, light and information, the bacteria out of balance will come into balance, and inappropriate bacteria will die. That is what has led us to the consciousness of what is called information medicine.

     But, here, to me, is the biggest problem, which came up when we were talking a moment ago about the placebo effect. The word “medicine” is what doesn’t belong. Chemical energy medicine, information medicine ... it inaccurately makes everything an adjective to medicine, placing medicine as the standard, and it’s not about medicine.

     Medicine is something we ingest, medicine can be chemical, and the spectrum of the field of medicine includes surgery. Medicine is one area of healing. This is something that permeates the healing world. It’s not that medicine doesn’t belong. Of course, it does, all of our healthcare disciplines have value.

     If I walk out into the street and I’m hit by a car, I love energy healers dearly, but please get out of the way, an ambulance is coming. And once the arterial blood spurting has been stopped and the bones have been set, now give me Reconnective Healing. The flipside of that is, if I am out there somewhere and they’re not able to stop the blood, then bring me the healing right away. And of course, obviously, the first opportunity we take should be to allow our body to heal itself, but if we’re not able to do it through that, then thank God for antibiotics. If the antibiotics aren’t able to do it, then thank God for Reconnective Healing. We have to use some common sense. The danger comes into play when any one healthcare discipline feels it is the authority over the other.

GS: It dominates and drives out the others.

EP: Right. In other words, I do not want my chiropractor doing my dentistry, I don’t want my dentist to be my proctologist and I don’t want my brain surgeon to do my chiropractic, because none of them are qualified in those other fields. Just as I don’t want the plumber to put the electric in my house and vice versa.

GS: It’s not like any one healing group would try to hog up the market share over the others, would it? They wouldn’t do that would they?

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EP: Of course not. The reality is that when chiropractic first came about, which was in 1895, as it started to happen, people used to think that chiropractors were pain doctors. People today connect chiropractic doctors to pain doctors, but the reality is that the first chiropractic patient didn’t have any pain. When D.D. Palmer found a bone out of position in his spine and adjsuted it, the patient regained his hearing. So Palmer thought, hey, a cure for deafness, and put out the word all over North America . All the deaf people started coming in, in covered wagons, and he was popping their necks and popping their backs, and some of them regained their hearing and many of them didn’t, but they found that they tended to start having healing of some other things. It was discovered that by adjusting the spine, all that occurs is that it removes some form of interference in the communication between the brain and body, and if the body is still in healthy enough shape, then it heals itself.

     This was very exciting information except to the second and third largest trade unions at the time, the American Medical Association and the American Pharmaceutical Association, because they like it when a patient goes into their medical doctor and then the medical doctor would send them to the pharmacy. Then the patient takes a medication and they have a bad response to it, so they’d make a second trip to the medical doctor who’d give them another prescription to get over the bad response and a new one that maybe they could have given them the first time, and they go back to the pharmacy again. And every year the pharmacists and the medical doctors took their families to Bermuda .

GS: Gosh, I’m sure glad it’s not like that anymore.

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EP: Suddenly people are getting well without needing medicine so the medical doctors and the pharmaceutical industry are getting all upset over it. After it has been proven, and demonstrated and re-demonstrated, and won in lawsuits, they can’t say or do the things they were doing that were lies and misrepresentations anymore. Chiropractic exists.

     Unfortunately, the medical model is something that we tend to view as an authority. We’ve let some of that dribble into the healing work. The concept of energy healing and going beyond energy healing into the Reconnective Healing spectrum, pretty much the principles are still very much the same. The body doesn’t need anything added to it, we just really don’t need anything interfering with it. And so, true healing comes with removing the interference and giving the body the opportunity to heal itself.

GS: And effect a restoration of balance.

EP: Yes. We know today that the body does not heal according to the chemical model. We know that the body heals through frequency, vibration, resonance, information, and then it’s communicated via light. We know that the DNA in the cells of our bodies emits a specific level of light. It’s unique to human beings, different from cows and goats and donkeys and goldfish. We know that, at least according to Dr. Fritz Pop in Germany , when our health is diminishing, the light is dimming. When our light is coming back up, our health is coming back up.

GS: You can see that in people’s faces.

EP: Absolutely. We’re all in this field, that Lynn McTaggert describes and science calls the Zero Point Field, so in that way we’re all connected and interacting. For whatever reasons the universe has in mind, of course, we’re living under the illusion of separation, which is probably part of the perfect learning situation, to allow us to come back to the discovery of us all being connected.

     But when we interact with Reconnective Healing, what happens is that we allow ourselves simply to feel, to listen, to observe ... and when we do that, the sensations that we receive, although they vary and are very different, always feel good or are a joy, a happiness, a bliss, that is an inner reminder to us that we are that light. When we share that space with another person in that field, the reminder within them goes off, too, and figuratively a voice says, “Hey, I remember this, this is me being light, this is me being healthy, I think I’ll do it again.” And just as water seeks it’s own level, we seek to return to our own level of light. When we vibrate at that level of light, nothing denser than that light, which tends to include most health challenges, pretty much has nothing left to hold on to. So, if it’s appropriate for that person in that moment in time in their life, that density or that health challenge falls away.

GS: That’s pretty much exactly one of the ways I’m approaching and teaching meditation. Light obliterates dark; as you illuminate, there’s no place for the dark to remain attached. Talk a little about your workshop here is Chicago .

EP: On Friday night, we give a three hour presentation. We talk about how this work introduced itself onto the planet, the history of it, the theory behind it, the research that’s going on about it, the early research and the new research. We also give live demonstrations of the healings. We’ll bring people up from the audience and do live demonstrations on some so we can see the new reality of what’s going on here. We’ll let everyone have an opportunity to feel it in their hands.

     Saturday and Sunday, however, is a working seminar which means there’s a stage in the center of the room, there are chairs on one side and massage tables on the other. We usually have one massage table for every four people. I’ll demonstrate a level of work from the stage, we’ll discuss it, and we’ll go to the massage tables. I’ll walk around to each of the tables, and so will the international team of teaching assistants that we bring in, and teach you to feel for, find and discover this new spectrum of healing. As you move your hands in one area you’ll start to see that people’s body’s respond in a way that is clear to the eyes. We often have video cameras in there displaying the movement up on the screen so everyone can see it. And we’ll show you how to move your hand to another place and see the body respond differently, then move it back to the first place it will come back to the same involuntary response, and we’ll start to recognize the instant correlation between what you’re feeling and what you’re seeing.

     You’ll watch as things increase because you’re steeping in this new comprehensive spectrum of healing for the entire weekend. So there’s an actual transformation that’s going on in the body that’s been measured and demonstrated in the laboratories of University of Arizona , Dr. Gary Schwartz, Dr. Melinda Connors, people from around the world, including Constantine Curatcuv who is studying this work over in Russia .

     It becomes a combination of two things. One, the universe has been waiting for us to recognize the consciousness and the philosophy that you and many of the other people today have been talking about. Apparently, as enough of the world has begun to start to recognize the philosophy, the universe has begun to open the door with a higher level of gift as a reward for beginning to recognize the philosophy. In other words, these are things we’ve been talking about and now we seem to be able to access more of it. Many of the people involved in quantum physics feel that it’s a door that’s been opened.

GS: Talk a little about the movie, The Living Matrix. You’re in some very impressive company in this movie.

EP: Lynn McTaggert, Bruce Lipton, Rupert Sheldrake, just to name a few. It’s a wonderful film about the science of healing, the science behind healing. Of course, many of us come in with our own perspectives and theories on this, which is wonderful, because we can’t make too many interesting paintings if we just paint with the same color.

     It started out to be a film about science and how science supported one type of approach to healing. As more researchers became involved, more of the people started talking about a new level of healing and the Reconnective Healing spectrum. They asked me to come out and do an interview. I flew out there and they asked me what was my most dramatic healing, and, of course, I answer the most recent one, and they asked what that was. So I said that after giving a presentation one evening, someone brought a boy up who was a five year old child with cerebral palsy, he was unable to stand without holding onto furniture or people, his heels wouldn’t touch the ground. He would have to crawl or sit to go up or down the stairs. He was unable to speak, he was unable to be understood, and his mother would have to interpret for the family what she thought he was saying.

     So we started to work after the presentation was over, but after four minutes they told us we had to leave because they had to shut off the lights. A few days later, this boy, for the first time in his life, was not only able to stand, he was able to stand on one leg and spin in a circle. He was able to open his right hand, which he was unable to open for his entire life. He climbs and runs and plays with other children and everyone can understand him. His speech is absolutely, perfectly clear.

     What happened in four minutes, we don’t know. Somehow or other in simply playing, this child rediscovered his light within, without any techniques, without anything fear based, he rediscovered who he was, and came back to something that medicine had told the family was impossible. The fact is that this same level of work is able to be done by anyone and everyone who learns how to access Reconnective Healing, as long as they are willing to put down the fear basis, to let go of the protections and to let go of having to do technique or steps. This is what allows us to step into the light of who we are as human beings.

GS: That is a great example of how the Reconnective Healing does work. Give us a little more about the movie.

EP: Thank goodness that we are moving in a direction where we are willing to talk about the truths that we’re discovering. For many years, people would say that the world was not ready to hear about this. And as long as people bought into that, waiting for the world to change first, nobody stepped forward to actually bring the world the information that would allow them to change. So it’s wonderful that films like What the Bleep and The Secret came out. And now we’re having films that are truly collecting some of the great minds and research, some of the great innovators, some of the great scientists, and stepping into the reality where we’re speaking to the world and demonstrating the reality of the gift that we have to share with one another as human beings as soon as we’re willing to step into the light of who we are. The thing about this film is that it shows us many different approaches so that we can find the ones that are right for us, because we’re not all the same people. Each of these approaches allows us to move into a higher level as the true spirit that we are as we are going through this experience on Earth as physical human beings.

GS: It’s all of a piece of the times we are in when the cat is just increasingly out of the bag.

EP: So thank goodness for the producers and their willingness to put a film like this together, Harry Massey and Greg Becker, to put their own time and money into this to help wake up the planet. And if more and more of us are willing to take the risks and simply talk about what we believe in, instead of waiting for the world to get ready, we’ll find out that the world has been ready the whole time, waiting for us to get ready to speak our truth.

GS: It’s happening across the board, it’s happening in spirituality. You can no longer sell the literalist version of the religious doctrines.

EP: You can’t, and just by demonstrating how universal this is. I think I mentioned, we’ve trained over 60,000 people how to do this work. A good twenty percent of them, about 12,000, are mainstream medical healthcare professionals, doctors, nurses, physical therapists, medical researchers, so Reconnective Healing today is practiced in private practices and in hospitals. Twenty years or so ago, when I was practicing as a chiropractor, I might have had trouble getting in the front door of some hospitals even as a patient. But today I’m invited to speak about this in medical schools and hospitals and universities. So the world is waking up. It’s a symbiotic relationship. The world is waking up to our ability and willingness to speak, and our ability and willingness to speak is waking up to readiness of the world.

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