Guy Spiro: Dr. Sue, I usually like to start with asking people to briefly tell their story. What were the steps you went through to get to where you are now?

Sue Morter: I was raised in a mental healthcare environment. My father is a chiropractor, the ninth chiropractor in my family. It’s a way of life. When I went into the study of chiropractic and natural healing, I also became very curious in the role of consciousness in the process of healing and wellness and wholeness. Of course, the relationship there is so interwoven that it intrigued me more deeply. I’ve spent the last twelve years in the study of consciousness and meditation and teach courses on that. In doing so I’ve been exposed to lots of other people doing the same work and found myself in the company of many great healers, educators, gurus and teachers. It’s my great joy.

GS: I’m sure you’ve found, as I have, that you learn so much more by teaching.

SM: It’s been the greatest gift in my own unfolding. The opportunity to be in this conversation on an ongoing basis with the most sincere and innocent questions coming my way, and finding that I had to dig very deeply at times to find an answer that made sense, and had to open myself to the possibilities instead of climbing into my mental self and trying to find the most intelligent answer. Allowing the answers to flow from the heart space has been great teaching to me.

GS: We learn that we really don’t want to rely on the mind.

SM: It’s the last to know.

GS: What kind of meditative practice are you teaching?

SM: My focus is primarily on the embodiment of what we achieve in the meditative process. I had so many experiences that were multi-dimensional and transcendent, but found myself unable to apply any benefit to the waking world. I became very curious how to embody the high frequency energies we encounter when we release the mind and allow ourselves to access the rest of who we are, how to anchor it in the physical realm. We can rely upon that and see and interpret the world from that place and allow ourselves to lead in our personal lives, our families and in our communities. To be led ourselves from a place of true possibility rather than a place of past experience and to be in less of a defensive state at the end of the day, we must really draw upon what we experience in a non-thinking but lucid conscious state. My practice is about walking that meditation in day to day life, finding ways that it can be applied, and finding ways to help others to do the same.

GS: Paul wrote, “Pray without ceasing.” That is to seek to be in such a state as consistently as possible.

SM: It is. If we choose to contribute to unity in the unified field of consciousness, it’s about harnessing and facilitating its entry into the waking world. That would be the walking prayer.

GS: What kind of technique, what practice do you guide people to do?

SM: I teach courses that are guided meditations, following an energy flow with a series of breathing techniques and focusing the consciousness in a particular way. I teach stilling the mind so that the energetic essence, the truth of universal consciousness moving through the physical dimension, is recognized and allowed to move them rather than them trying to force the issue or force how the energy moves. It’s a collaborative effort with nature by attending to the inner world. The focus is on really noticing what is happening, so practices of mindfulness, of course, but also with the understanding that there is a collaborative action happening here, that we are to listen and be in action simultaneously.

GS: How do you recommend people go about stilling the mind

SM: Many different techniques are available. One of the things that I personally prefer is just watching the breath, following the breath, putting all of my consciousness on the breathing. At the point when I first started trying to meditate, it landed by my simply melding into the consciousness of the breath itself and feeling and finally experiencing myself being breathed, rather than just breathing through my face.

     A lot of the focus of the work I do is releasing interference that is stored in the subconscious, in the energy field, that keeps us from being able to merge with universal consciousness by setting up a guarded, protective, fight or flight defense physiology that the body uses for survival purposes. When there is a lack of consciousness or the recognition that we are eternal beings and there is really nothing to fear, until we awaken to that point in consciousness, we have a difficult time and experience the happenings in our life as potentially threatening. The body records those things as potential threats to our future. So the work that I do on a day in, day out basis in the clinical setting, is repatterning the subconscious to reinterpret or reframe the experiences that have occurred as being to our benefit rather than having been a threat in the first place. They are all serving the unfoldment of our recognition that we are eternal beings co-creating an experience. We are utilizing these physical events in the life experience to point us in the direction of where the consciousness needs to go next in order to unfold into its wholeness. To translate that into normal daily language, everything that has happened in my life has actually been serving me. It hasn’t been bad for me, it’s been showing me how powerful I am. It’s been causing me to reach deeper within myself and grab whatever it takes in order to be intentional and in harmony in the life experience. In being put up against these challenges, I’ve actually come to know who I am. So it’s about rewiring and reframing stored information under a different vibratory frequency.

GS: When we’re replaying old traumas or fearing possibilities of the future, the subconscious doesn’t differentiate, it’s as if it’s happening right now.

SM: It has no distinction between something that we’re remembering, something that we’re imagining or something really happening. It just gets an impulse and gives a response. To indulge in worst case scenarios, even if they never happen, the body goes through the same responses as if they were. The person who is in a practical sense trying to prepare for the worst possible outcome just in case, so that they’re prepared, is actually aging themselves prematurely because they’re running their system through that as a reality. It doesn’t know the difference.

GS: That is creating a physical manifestation of it. Worrying really is praying for what you don’t want.

SM: Correct. Every thought is a prayer, a prayer the universe answers.

GS: Especially when it’s dwelled on. That really feeds it. I like the way you put it in terms of reframing, that’s what we really need to do. I’ve become a big believer in that was then and this is now.

SM: When we look back upon an experience, we should be able to interpret it differently than when it occurred. In the awakening process the intention becomes how do I reframe this rather than wishing it hadn’t happened, or worrying about the consequences, or trying to prevent it from happening again. The awakening process isn’t about that. It’s about how what’s happening here is all good and there are no exceptions to that. There is only one thing happening in the universe and it is good. It is unfolding into the empowered co-creator that you are. But once we interpret anything in any way other way, we step out of the flow and create the stressful defensive survival strategies that most of humanity is flailing about with.

GS: I find that one of the biggest problems humanity suffers from is identifying with mental and emotional process. Most people haven’t thought much about thinking. Most people think that their mind, the noise in their head, is who they really are.

SM: That’s what I’m here to heal. That’s what I’m here to dissolve, that noise in my head. If our energy is being distracted into mind chatter, or unresolved past emotional responses, or anticipating future potential threats, then that energy is not available for the healing process. When I’m doing my clinical work, or workshops along the lines of healing, the focus always becomes one of recognizing that healing is a by product of the wholeness that is our natural state. Elation and bliss is a natural state for us. If we are not healed and whole and well and in a blissful, open emotional and mental capacity, then we are doing something to get in the way of that. Healing isn’t something that we need to go searching for. It’s something that we turn our attention inward to, to release and relieve the pressure that we’re putting on ourselves by thinking that we or our circumstances should be different than they are. There is a perfection playing out here, and that perfection needs to be honored. Once we recognize that everything occurring in the life experience is perfect and all we have to do is line up to it, we recognize that there is a pathway unfolding before us, revealing to us the beauty that is intended for our life experience.

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