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quantum leaps of discontinuity. This is why we have fossil gaps. There are fossil gaps because there are no fossils. There is no time to lay down fossils. Epochs can be very quick, instantaneous, the transformation from one species into another.
GS: We have seen instances lately of shockingly fast evolutionary process haven’t we?
AG: Exactly. Darwinism can’t explain this because Darwinism is a slow process. It’s a slow accumulation of changes, variations and nature selecting among the basis of survivability. But those are very slow and continuous processes, whereas epochs are sometimes compared to punctuation marks in otherwise continuous prose. However you picture them, there are very fast epochs of evolution and it’s just undeniable. So how do you explain them? There seem to be two templates of evolution. There is a gradual evolution which Darwinism can and does explain. But there is also macroevolution, large scale evolution which always seems to take place with this very adaptive epoch understanding, quantum leaps are the best way of
explaining them.
GS: You took quantum leaps on that balcony on the west coast and in the conversation in 1985.
AG: Yes, I did, and I have given all the arguments in the book Creative Evolution. That version is that in biological evolution, consciousness makes similar quantum leaps of creativity in the epochs of evolution. You get many other consequences of this theory. In fact, you get a new biology as an additional benefit for this approach. And we need a new biology because the current biology has no space for feeling, no space for intuition, and the new biology establishes the human being as a full human being, not just a materialist machine.
GS: Excellent. Please tell us about the movie.
AG: This is about Quantum Activism, the book that I’m now working on. The movie is a pre-cursor, an introduction to the book which will have more details, but the movie talks about this process that is going on. There is a paradigm shift. The movie starts with that message and we get into
the question of, if there is now evidence for downward causation and an agency for it that we may call God, then what are we doing about it? What can we do about it? My answer is Quantum Activism. We can change our self according to the guidelines that quantum physics, downward causation gives us, and we can change our society. We can give a helping hand to our fellow human beings to make the same changes, which amounts to also changing our social systems. Because, as we said earlier, our social systems have been so corrupted now by materialism they are literally closing up the avenues of creativity and love and higher values and higher meanings for ordinary people.
GS: And that’s not fun!
AG: That’s not fun and that’s not the intention. Who wants to live that way? That is not 21st century living, it is going back to the 16th-17th century, prerevolution, feudal way of living and we cannot go backwards. Evolution never goes backwards.
GS: It begs the question, what’s the point?
